The Ziggurat of Doom

Ow, my poor goddamned brain.

Filed under: — The Hierophant @ 4:29 pm

Some people, when I start ranting about the cr/evo debate, ask me, “Don’t worry, your Hierophant-ness. The situation isn’t that desperate.”

An example of just how bad it is can be found in crap like this:

The theory of evolution does not and cannot explain so much about the universe that we know. For instance, when and how did water evolve? How does it happen that gravity can hold us to the Earth, and at the same time allow us to step up without any trouble? How did it happen that the Earth is spinning at the exact rate that keeps us from feeling that movement?

This is a perfect example of what we might call Bad Waiter Syndrome. If you have a bad waiter, and he makes a small mistake, such as bringing the wrong kind of salad dressing, that’s easy to fix - you say “Yo, waiter-dude. Wrong salad dressing.”

However, if instead of bringing you a salad, he stuffs a rabid wolverine down your trousers and starts singing showtunes, it’s just overload time. There so much wrong here, you don’t even know where to start. This is what we’re up against.

(Hat tip: The Panda’s Thumb.)

17 Responses to “Ow, my poor goddamned brain.”

  1. Arashi Says:

    For instance, when and how did water evolve?

    Ow. Ow. Just… ow. Water’s not alive. ;_;

  2. The Hermit Says:

    Well, science tells us it evolved from hydrogen peroxide, if I remember the label to my hydrogen peroxide correctly.

    Yes, that was a chemestry joke. Yes, that’s a new low even for me.

  3. ChibiDan Says:

    It’s like ignorance is breeding in his brain, parasitically replacing the sanity and reason.

  4. DaveScot Says:

    The joke’s on you. Elements heavier than hydrogen (which includes oxygen for the science challenged), are a result of stellar evolution. For smaller stars fusion stops when carbon is produced from burning helium. For larger stars, they keep on collapsing under their own weight and the pressure ignites fusion of heavier and heavier elements. Under the right conditions these heavy stars burst in a supernova explosion which distributes the heavy elements into gas clouds that eventually form later generation stars and planets. So you see, every oxygen molecule (oxygen is a molecule in nature composed of two oxygen atoms pronounced “oh two”) did evolve from lighter elements. Water of course is a combination of one hydrogen atom and one oxygen moecule. So water evolved and that’s how.

  5. The Hierophant Says:

    Okay, except that is (a) a complete non sequitur, and (b) clearly and obviously not evolution in the sense usually described by the phrase “theory of evolution”, which is what she was complaining about.

    Yes, I’m fairly familiar with the standard ID-c tactic of conflating various kinds of “evolution” in order to cloud the issue. It won’t fly.

  6. The Fool Says:

    Gravity makes things fall down. Clearly this is the evolution of the “up” state to the more biologically advanced “down” state.

    A proton is made of two up quarks and a down quark, while the neutron is composed of two down quarks and one up quark. Thus, any scientist can clearly tell that the neutron evolved from the proton.

  7. ChibiDan Says:

    “Water of course is a combination of one hydrogen atom and one oxygen moecule.”

    I do hope that is a typo lest you lose the entirety of your scientific credibility.

  8. The Hierophant Says:

    Would a “moecule” be a small-scale compound that describes one of the elemental types of moe?

    The Fool, your thoughts?

  9. The Fool Says:

    I think moe might be irreducibly complex. It’s definitely some kind of complex.

  10. The Fool Says:

    Oh oh! Can we start calling ID-c proponents irreconners?

  11. ChibiDan Says:

    I honestly hadn’t even noticed the “moecule” typo. My comment was fuming about the incorrect atom ratio of hydrogen to oxygen in water.

  12. The Fool Says:

    I think he was suggesting that water contains one O2 molecule and one H atom. Which is not really…

  13. Arashi Says:

    Which is still completely wrong. Exactly.

  14. Seth Says:

    Yes. Chemistry brain returns with more caffeine.

  15. ChibiDan Says:

    The irony is that hydrogen is also diatomic naturally. Had he switched the element names, he would have been correct.

  16. The Fool Says:

    Well that’s what I’d originally thought he did, but it wouldn’t *really* be correct even so, I think, since in H2O the H bonds are to the O atom, not to eachother, no?

  17. ChibiDan Says:

    Correct (wiki).

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